70cmQuadiDesign
Note: This page is a reconstruction to a now defuct Univeristy of Idaho nearspace balloon wiki article I posted in 2008
70cm Quagi
Project Status
V1 Flight Tested on F08L01
V2 Preconstruction
Problem Statement
Ginger is a bidirectional data routing system equipt with 70cm j-pole antennas. These antennas have a gain of around 2.5dBi and using quarter wave whips the link range is around 37 miles at full power (250kbps) at 10 Watts of output power. To extend the range of operations which might be due to a run away balloon, damaged transmitters, or geographical obstructions, we have built two directional quagi antennas.
The quagi antenna consists of a quad driver (a driven element and a reflector) which already has a higher gain than a dipole fed yagi and reflector. This means that by feeding the same number of directors, a quagi will outperform a yagi at the cost of not being a completely flat design (which is merely a transport concern anyway). The 8 element quagis we have built should have a gain between 12 and 13 dBi and should increase the working distance to 80 miles at 250kbps.
Photos
V1
V2
Dimensions
V1
The dimensions, in a 1977 article by K6YNB in QST April 1977
Element Lengths | 144.5 MHz | 147 MHz | 222 MHz | 432 MHz | 446 MHz |
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Reflector (all No 12 TW wire, closed) | 2200 mm loop | 2159 mm | 1432 mm | 711 mm | 689 mm |
Driven Element (No 12 TW, fed at bottom) | 2083 mm loop | 2032 mm | 1359 mm | 676 mm | 657 mm |
Directors | 913 mm to 889 mm in 5 mm steps | 897 mm to 873 mm in 5 mm steps | 594 mm to 568 mm in 3 mm steps | 298 mm to 291 mm in 1.5 mm steps | 289 mm to 280 mm in 1.5 mm steps |
Spacing | |||||
R - DE | 533 mm | 521 mm | 346 mm | 178 mm | 173 mm |
DE - D1 | 400 mm | 391 mm | 260 mm | 133 mm | 130 mm |
D1 - D2 | 838 mm | 826 mm | 546 mm | 279 mm | 272 mm |
D2 - D3 | 445 mm | 435 mm | 289 mm | 149 mm | 144 mm |
D3 - D4 | 663 mm | 651 mm | 432 mm | 222 mm | 215 mm |
D4 - D5 | 663 mm | 651 mm | 432 mm | 222 mm | 215 mm |
D5 - D6 | 663 mm | 651 mm | 432 mm | 222 mm | 215 mm |
V2
The deisgn has been optimized for 437MHz using NEC2. The dimensions are as follows:
RWIRE = .00258826 wire for quads diameter RROD = .003175 yagi director rod diameter RE = 0.755962 Total Length of Reflector Element DE = 0.718693 Total Length of Driven Element D1 = 0.280124 Total length of Director element D2 = 0.28434 Total length of Director element D3 = 0.283594 Total length of Director element D4 = 0.276571 Total length of Director element D5 = 0.244994 Total length of Director element D6 = 0.283213 Total length of Director element RE2DE = 0.177867 Distance from RE to DE DE2D1 = 0.138696 Distance from DE to Director DE2D2 = 0.383653 Distance from DE to Director DE2D3 = 0.547346 Distance from DE to Director DE2D4 = 0.851997 Distance from DE to Director DE2D5 = 0.984569 Distance from DE to Director DE2D6 = 1.092358 Distance from DE to Director
Performance
V1
- At 437MHz the SWR is measured at 1.0 for Quagi Orange and 1.2 for Quagi Green (due to coax losses from crappier cable)
- Raw data showing rough measurements of directionality Excel XLS file
V2
- At 437MHz the gain should be 13.43 DBi best theoretical. SWR S/B 1.07
Insights
- Wind is a real problem and keeping both aimed at the same location is not a trivial task. Mount both on a single crossbar and have a lockable central pivot.
- It would be pretty neat to read the GPS data from the CNDH board (already scheduled) and have a QT module to decode them and steer the antennas in the right direction.
- I don't trust ARRL - always simulate those "best anntenna ever" designs first before building!